S. Dirk Schafer and Don’t Shoot Book featured on ADP Podcast

Trent Bell an architecture photographer and podcaster from the state of Maine and I just had a freeform interview about the Don’t Shoot Book and the business of photography. Unrehearsed, unresearched and coming in at two hours long, I sit with Trent and photographer Chet Williams in my dining room (with a candle stick in the wrong spot) as we discuss cults, karma, and creative burnout, among other things.


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